Will The SUNY-Wide Smoking Ban Actually Work?

Students light up in front of The Humanities Building
Students light up in front of The Humanities Building.

The SUNY Board of Trustees resolution to make all SUNY campuses tobacco-free in 2014 failed to pass through the New York Legislature during the 2013 legislative session.

SUNY campuses, including New Paltz, have been preparing for a complete ban since the Board’s resolution was made in 2012.

How to effectively enforce such a ban is still up for discussion. Donald Christian, SUNY New Paltz’s president, said in a June Oracle interview that he had received “no guidance” from SUNY about how to enact the law if it goes into effect.

The ban would prohibit the use of cigarettes, chewing tobacco, snuff and e-cigarettes.

Smoking has been illegal inside SUNY buildings since 2003, the same year all indoor smoking was banned in public buildings in New York State. More recently, smoking within “50 feet of building entrances and open windows” has been prohibited on campuses.

There have also been complete bans of smoking on the SUNY Buffalo and SUNY Cortland campuses.

The complete bans on these campuses, as well as the 50-foot bans at SUNY New Paltz and other SUNY campuses, are not actually laws, but instead the policies of the individual campuses.

University Police Departments cannot ticket smokers for disobeying these strictures. If the SUNY Board of Trustees resolution becomes a law, they would be able to, according to Micheal Malloy, the Director for Environmental Health and Safety for New Paltz.

For now, New Paltz must rely on “Community-based enforcement” to uphold the 50-foot ban, according to the university’s Workplace Smoking Policy.

“All of us must be part of the Campus Community-based enforcement for it to be effective. If you see staff and students smoking too close to a building entrance/exit…please remind them of this policy,” the Workplace Policy reads.

“We anticipate that most instances of violations of this policy can be remedied though education and/or informal reminders,” the policy states.

Mr. Malloy said he “dragged the ashtrays 50 feet” away from entrances, but he would often later find them dragged back.

During a recent break between classes, students could be seen lighting up within the restricted areas in front of the Library and the Humanities Building. A professor looked on, smoking a pipe.

The total bans in Buffalo are even less effective. Aaron Mansfield, the editor-in-chief of the university’s newspaper, said the ban, “does not have a tremendous effect on the smoking habits of UB students.” He suggested CVS’ recent decision to stop selling tobacco products will have more of an effect, as they are the closest tobacco retailer.

Geena Parlatore, another SUNY Buffalo student, said she thought the ban was having some effect, but also said she had never seen it enforced.

If the anti-tobacco law passes the legislature, it would be up to the individual campuses and their police departments to enforce the law.

“Each campus has to develop the tobacco-free policy in accordance and in consultation with a wide variety of stakeholders that includes representatives from health and safety, academics, residence life, as well as students,” said Ed Engelbride, SUNY’s associate provost.

When New Paltz smokers were interviewed about how they would deal with a total ban, they responded that they would either sneak cigarettes or walk off-campus to smoke. Mr. Malloy said that there would be “safety concerns” if students were forced to walk off campus in the middle of the night to smoke.

“As with all safety and security issues, [the total ban] will have to be implemented in keeping with corresponding policies and procedures,” Engelbride said.

The New Paltz Health and Counseling Center has begun offering consultations about smoking-cessation products to students who wish to quit. However, they do not offer Nicotine patches or gum at the center. The center can also prescribe Buproprion, a generic form of Wellbutrin that is often used to help smokers quit.

For now, complaints about student smoking within the 50-foot zones should be referred to the Office of Student Affairs, and complaints about employee smoking should be referred to the Office of Human resources, according to The Workplace Smoking Policy.


Roger Gilson

2 thoughts on “Will The SUNY-Wide Smoking Ban Actually Work?

  1. This pretty well destroys the Myth of second hand smoke:


    Lungs from pack-a-day smokers safe for transplant, study finds.

    By JoNel Aleccia, Staff Writer, NBC News.

    Using lung transplants from heavy smokers may sound like a cruel joke, but a new study finds that organs taken from people who puffed a pack a day for more than 20 years are likely safe.

    What’s more, the analysis of lung transplant data from the U.S. between 2005 and 2011 confirms what transplant experts say they already know: For some patients on a crowded organ waiting list, lungs from smokers are better than none.

    “I think people are grateful just to have a shot at getting lungs,” said Dr. Sharven Taghavi, a cardiovascular surgical resident at Temple University Hospital in Philadelphia, who led the new study………………………

    Ive done the math here and this is how it works out with second ahnd smoke and people inhaling it!

    The 16 cities study conducted by the U.S. DEPT OF ENERGY and later by Oakridge National laboratories discovered:

    Cigarette smoke, bartenders annual exposure to smoke rises, at most, to the equivalent of 6 cigarettes/year.


    A bartender would have to work in second hand smoke for 2433 years to get an equivalent dose.

    Then the average non-smoker in a ventilated restaurant for an hour would have to go back and forth each day for 119,000 years to get an equivalent 20 years of smoking a pack a day! Pretty well impossible ehh!

  2. Reference Manual on Scientific Evidence: Third Edition


    This sorta says it all

    These limits generally are based on assessments of health risk and calculations of concentrations that are associated with what the regulators believe to be negligibly small risks. The calculations are made after first identifying the total dose of a chemical that is safe (poses a negligible risk) and then determining the concentration of that chemical in the medium of concern that should not be exceeded if exposed individuals (typically those at the high end of media contact) are not to incur a dose greater than the safe one.

    So OSHA standards are what is the guideline for what is acceptable ”SAFE LEVELS”


    All this is in a small sealed room 9×20 and must occur in ONE HOUR.

    For Benzo[a]pyrene, 222,000 cigarettes.

    “For Acetone, 118,000 cigarettes.

    “Toluene would require 50,000 packs of simultaneously smoldering cigarettes.

    Acetaldehyde or Hydrazine, more than 14,000 smokers would need to light up.

    “For Hydroquinone, “only” 1250 cigarettes.

    For arsenic 2 million 500,000 smokers at one time.

    The same number of cigarettes required for the other so called chemicals in shs/ets will have the same outcomes.

    So, OSHA finally makes a statement on shs/ets :

    Field studies of environmental tobacco smoke indicate that under normal conditions, the components in tobacco smoke are diluted below existing Permissible Exposure Levels (PELS.) as referenced in the Air Contaminant Standard (29 CFR 1910.1000)…It would be very rare to find a workplace with so much smoking that any individual PEL would be exceeded.” -Letter From Greg Watchman, Acting Sec’y, OSHA.

    Why are their any smoking bans at all they have absolutely no validity to the courts or to science!

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